You should have told someone the minute you noticed the problem. Then they could have dealt with it. It might have been the fact they were never notified by the track or anyone else that things weren't as the should have been.The TMCCC staff if pretty darn good at fixing issues when the hear about them.

Not that it impacts me in the Street class, but why would it be different for King? Just wondering.. We had someone go out early in King via a redlight, so was wondering if his experience was the same. 

Stumpy and Sallan17, I can assure you, I did tell one of the officers, but I didn't mention their name because this wasn't meant to point fingers. He said he had no idea what was going on, shrugged his shoulders and did nothing about it. I appreciate the statement Sallan and am not mad regarding the fact I got knocked out. My attempt here is to make sure that new, less experienced racers coming in have a good experience so that we continue to grow, or at least keep the numbers we have as other people drop out, rather from the economy, age, new interests or whatever. Trust me, I don't do well enough to worry about even being in the top 10 and that's OK as long as we have the chance to do our best, win or lose.

One of my guys asked me about it he was in King and he red lit the first round. I have been a weekend racer for 20 years or more and I'm use to it. I don't know why they changed for one class and not another? I ran Super and a perfect light was .000 but in King it was .500. It can be confusing for folks that don't have the experience or know the difference..
I use to bracket race at Redline and in time trials it would be .000 and in elims it would show .500 on the slip. Why? Don't know and never found out.

Maybe someone from the track can chime in and tell us what the difference is and why use one style over the other?



 

ruckityruckity wrote:

No stumpy, he didn't and If so I would have understood what to do. He thought it was just me sleeping at the tree.  It was a learning experience and I know for the future. As I said, I just don't want to see it give novice drivers a bad taste and not come back. I do understand it was a track issue but I hope in the future someone would ask before eliminations if everything is operating properly and if not, simply make an announcement to clarify and eliminate problems. Seems like a fair and reasonable request. I understand it had to do with the track, however the advertisement is TMCCC not DentonMCC. Again, i'm not trying to be ugly, just feel it is something that the officers should be looking for at each meet along with other things to assure a good outcome for all. I know it is a hard job but that is why y'all get paid the big bucks, Lol. I do appreciate there is alot on the officer's plates, and understand you can't catch everything. That is why I posted, to give y'all a heads up. I learned a  long time ago, never quit asking what can be done better. If they stop telling you you've either perfected it or no one cares and it's pretty much doomed. I appreciate the responses from all and look forward to Aardmore.

What he said. It didn't have to be changed but the officers could have asked the track officials to make a announcment. It wouldn't have been that har . Just sayin . See y'all at ardmore

sallan17 wrote:

I’m sorry I wasn’t clearer in my first post, let me see if I can help clear this up by starting with an explanation of the difference between a .500 and .000 tree (I had to look it up to make sure I got it right).

In most bracket racing classes and Sportsman classes, the amber bulbs will light in sequence, a half-second apart. This is called a Full Tree. On a tree that is set to a .500 light, the reaction timer starts when the third amber comes on. Since there is a half-second (or .500 seconds) delay until the green light comes on, a .500 reaction time is perfect. On a tree that is set to a .000 light, the reaction timer starts when the Green light comes on. Now, you may ask why is there two systems? The answer comes from the fact that drag racing has been around much longer then computers. Without computers, they needed a cost effective way of timing the lights without a lot of timers and delay boxes. If you want to find out more about that, it’s a simply google search and a good read….

Most tracks today are using the .000 light systems. The point is that once you understand the numbers, you realize that it makes no difference to the racer what system is used. If you red light on a .500 tree, you would have also red light on a .000 tree. The only difference is what is printed on the time slip. A .450 light on a .500 tree is the same as a -0.050 light on the .000 tree.

Now, my first comment was simply to inform everyone NOT to change the launch procedure because of this, instead just ask if the track is running a .500 or .000 light. If you know you can run a .050 light almost every time, and you are sure you just ran one but you slip shows .550, it’s a good bet that the track is running a .500 tree.

I suspect the reason that the officials acted like it was no big deal is because it really isn’t if you understand that it only makes a difference on the slips, not in the race. I don’t know why the track had king setup for a .500 light, it was certainly a mistake on their part, but making an announcement would have been more trouble and confusion than just setting it back to a .000 tree.

Now, all that being said, I will agree that from now on, we should specify, if not already, that the trees for all classes should be set to .000 lights if for nothing else than consistency.

 

For a few not the people may not have known the difference that does help but should still have just announced it and there were plenty of people there to help. I was in king and I am usually in super pro. Due to some issues I had to be in king. So how I was launching and all that was a total mystery and when I saw the bad lights (or so I thought) it definitely Thur me off my game. I lost regardless so that is on me but an announcement would have at least been curdious

Silly sandbagger

lol
 

I understand what you are talking about and agree with you fully. For me racing for money is what the younger folks do and racing with friends is what I do. I like this series because I have met a lot of people and new friends over the years. Some have become very good friends. Nothing against you Robert because I know you race all the brackets and that is what it is all about having frun. Have a good Day and See everyone at Ardmore If the rain quits.

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